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Freelap Mini DH #1 - testing it out.

Posted: Oct 20, 2008

Mini DH tracks are great training grounds for DH racing. Adding a Freelap timing system makes it an even better training tool. I recently acquired a Freelap system, and couldn't wait to try it out. We put a good crew together on one of our local tracks and set out to do some timing!

All photos by Dave Mackie.

Sunday morning the Sun was out, it wasn't too cold, another perfect fall day for riding. But we weren't just riding, we are gonna test out our new Freelap timing system. Tyler Gorz and I both bought some watches, I also picked up three poles. John has had a system for a few months now, he has been wanting us to get some watches for a while. Tyler, John and I were the only three with watches but we had a big crew out for the whole day. Ken and Ray Faubert, Tim (Lazer) Coleman, and Dave Mackie came out to ride and shoot some pics.


The first task at hand was to set up the poles properly. Freelap states the detection field as 1.5m, John recommended we keep the poles as close to the rider as possible, just so you are assured to get a reading. Freelap recommends a horizontal mounting for use with MTB, but mine came with the vertical base, so we just have to make due. We had 3 poles with us, that way we could have a split time in the middle of the track, so we can narrow down the spots that we are losing/gaining time. After a few test passes we had some good pole placement. The watches and poles are water resistant so there are no excuses to get out and train in the rain!

Start gate

Start gate


Now it was time to ride. We can't have a timing system, a sick track and a bunch of racers riding without having some sort of competition. But this was our first test run, so pride would be the only thing on the line. This is a short track compared to most DH races, only about a minute long(depending on the rider), down a constant pitch that is steep enough to carry lots of speed, yet the push back up is fairly mellow at only 10 minutes. We decided to just do as many runs as we could all day, and compare our times as we go.

Tyler Gorz

Tyler Gorz

Lazer

Lazer


The best part of the Freelap system, is the ease of use, and the portability of the system. Once the poles are set up it's all up the rider and their own stopwatch. To start the timing the rider needs to be positioned in the start field, the rider then pushes the start button on the watch. Once the rider moves from the field the watch starts to count. This makes the timing very accurate and this way the rider can start when they are ready. Other riders on track will not affect the system at all. Because the transmitters just emit a magnetic field that the watch detects, you can have an unlimited number of riders on course at one time without compensating the timing at all. The timing is accurate, and you have your time right when you cross the finish line.

Darryl Bartlett

Darryl Bartlett

Ken Faubert

Ken Faubert


We spent 5 hours hiking and riding the track. John has never ridden here before, so he had some time to get to know the trail, and we pointed out some lines to him so he could gain a few seconds. John ended up leaving after a few hours, he said he was tired from his cyclocross race earlier in the morning (wuss). This was Tyler's track that he had been working on with Ken and Ray for a while now, so he has the most laps under his belt. I have been doing a lot of riding with Tyler lately, so I have spent a bit of time on the track and know it fairly well.

John getting loose!

John getting loose!

Darryl

Darryl

Gorz Truckin!

Gorz Truckin!


At the end of the day we can go back and check all our times. The watch can store up to 2000 lap times, and 64 files(each day of training a file is created). We can go back and check our split times to see if certain lines actually gained some time or not. By adding more poles we can break the track up into smaller portions to really break down where the time is gained or lost.

Tyler took the win on his home track today.

1. Tyler Gorz 57"90
split 1- 29"20
split 2- 28"70

2. Darryl Bartlett 1'02"71
split 1- 31"46
split 2- 31"29

3. John Starcevic 1'04"00 (Left before I could get his split times)

Tyler's winning time

Tyler's winning time


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41 Comments

  • + 7
flag GT-ROSS (Oct 23, 2008 at 0:35)
nice track
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flag ncrider5 (Oct 23, 2008 at 4:24)
yea man it is nice, im building one on the mountain behind my house, Just wondering for a comparison, how long is this track?
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flag IsakL (Oct 23, 2008 at 12:30)
if you read it, you might see about 1 minute, and 10 walking up. of course that would depend if you ride fast or slow, but i bet about 1000m?
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flag andresgaleano (Oct 23, 2008 at 0:37)
cool products freelap is producing!!! everyone should have one!!!
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flag SuperrealA11an (Oct 23, 2008 at 0:38)
but damn they are expensive!
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flag dhdan13 (Oct 23, 2008 at 9:40)
Not that expensive for a complete timing system when you look at how expensive a proper race timing system is.
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flag emanuel290 (Oct 28, 2008 at 3:07)
your mum looks useless but she does the job better than anyone!
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flag emanuel290 (Oct 28, 2008 at 3:08)
that was for num nuts below!
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flag escada (Oct 23, 2008 at 1:17) (Below Threshold) show comment
it looks useless
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flag Marcthespark (Oct 23, 2008 at 3:56)
it's beyond me how you can tell this from a few pics and a story telling of how good the pole system is
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flag MichaelTurnbull (Oct 23, 2008 at 11:30)
its the best and most accurate system i have used.
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flag bmxpro99 (Oct 26, 2008 at 12:11)
it sounds sweet
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flag superfly (Oct 23, 2008 at 1:54)
You can't improve what you can't measure.

Check the clock every run and pedal fatser and stay off the brakes is exactly what these will encourage you to do. A great tool for anyone that wants to go faster.
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flag eddiethekid (Oct 23, 2008 at 11:02)
very good point man...like it Smile never looked at it that way...guess ill have to buy one then eh! lmao
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flag MichaelTurnbull (Oct 23, 2008 at 11:31)
if your pockets are big then yes.
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flag goosh (Oct 23, 2008 at 4:26)
prity cool
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flag superfranky (Oct 23, 2008 at 4:51)
good track
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flag mtb-rider (Oct 23, 2008 at 5:04)
Nice pictures..Nice track..nice gadget! What do you want more?
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flag cronin91 (Oct 23, 2008 at 5:12)
look's cool, just far to expensive!
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flag downhilldro (Oct 23, 2008 at 5:49)
i was gonna getone for diablo but some dummy decided to steal poles.
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flag nightmareterror (Oct 23, 2008 at 5:59)
Hey, my friends and I did a race last Sunday. It's a GREAT course although it's a bit longer.. it's all DH specific. We all timed one another, best time was 2:10. My times were 3:04/2:44 for my 2 runs with only one crash. Guess which run had the crash! Great idea to train yourself!!
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flag seamus (Oct 23, 2008 at 6:29)
we have our own short course too and use free lap on it, its great to see your times come down and a bit of competition is never bad only issue i have are the watches look cheap for what they cost us
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flag spwrench (Oct 23, 2008 at 6:44)
I'm waiting for freelap to hopefully put something out that doesn't look like a timex watch that is way over priced and hopefully to add something to calculate speed.
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flag darryl24 (Oct 23, 2008 at 10:00)
Speed can be calculated. but an accurate measurment of distance between poles is required. If you have the time, you can get a speed readout as well as your time.
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flag audeo03 (Oct 23, 2008 at 7:08)
You could get a bike GPS setup for personal use which records overall time, and maps your run in 3 dimensions, and includes your speed at each position. Great tool, but each person would need one. And, they aint cheap, yet.
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flag wingman303 (Oct 23, 2008 at 7:18)
How much do they cost?
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flag quinner (Oct 23, 2008 at 7:41)
Ya Freelap is rad. Been doing the same on this side of the rockies as you westcoast shredders. Pump tracks and freelap is certainly bringin' the fun back into training for DH again!!
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flag bansheeair (Oct 23, 2008 at 7:41)
Nice Darryl. When the next one happens give me a call, I would love to partake as well.
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flag downhillscotty (Oct 23, 2008 at 7:51)
y in the hell is every one riding cove shokers
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flag bansheeair (Oct 23, 2008 at 7:56)
they are sponsored. Smile BCCup circuit is full of Shockers. It all has to do with Cove being right here.
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flag dave-m (Oct 23, 2008 at 7:59)
Everyone riding Shockers? I see 2 Shockers, 2 Kona's and 1 Norco.
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flag craigmarshall (Oct 23, 2008 at 8:24)
that system looks mint !!! not to bad prices apart from the watch its self
pritty cool though
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flag norcorider540 (Oct 23, 2008 at 10:12)
damn eveyone and there beauty shockers.
i envy you!
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flag godfried (Oct 23, 2008 at 11:57)
at first glance at the topic. I thought it was a DH race for kids under 10 years old.
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flag brian316 (Oct 23, 2008 at 11:59)
Those are some fun trails. Every time we go there something new pops up and I've ridden there for years. There are a few hidden "oldies" that could be brought back to life too.

Nice to see Tim "Lazer" has a frame with a head tube attached again.

It would be interesting to try out the Freelap system on day, looks very cool.
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flag KyleYoung (Oct 23, 2008 at 15:31)
yea those guys were shredding that day. i was there riding on the track trying to keep up with them Razz
loads of funn
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flag john--b (Oct 23, 2008 at 16:23)
That looks like a sick race!
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flag nato (Oct 23, 2008 at 20:13)
It is funny how strapping a watch to your self makes you ride faster. I tried this system out this summer and went faster then ever before down "Addiction". 3 min .4 sec. if memory serves, hitting all the stunts. Sketch fast.
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flag timmigrant (Oct 23, 2008 at 22:41)
Nice write up Daryl! That was a super fun day. We'll do it again soon.

I can see I'm not going to be able to kick that nickname ... you bastards.
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flag taeho10042002 (Oct 25, 2008 at 11:00)
swweeeeeeeet i was ther too .
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flag onone26 (Oct 26, 2008 at 21:46)
dmc mototrainers are also a great training tool
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